Five gun control groups worth your time and donations

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President Obama tears up addressing the nation early today. Photo by Charles Dharapak

There’s no sugarcoating that what happened today in Newtown, Conn. is an unimaginable and unspeakable tragedy. White House spokesman Jay Carney can say that today isn’t the day to talk about gun control all he wants, we’re using the day to remember a much wiser thing Kurt Vonnegut said about guns:

That there are such devices as firearms, as easy to operate as cigarette lighters and as cheap as toasters, capable at anybody’s whim of killing Father or Fats [Waller] or Abraham Lincoln or John Lennon or Martin Luther King, Jr., or a woman pushing a baby carriage, should be proof enough for anybody that, to quote the old science fiction writer Kilgore Trout, “being alive is a crock of shit.”

If you agree, consider giving some money, time or attention to the following local and national gun control groups.

The Brady Campaign: Named after Ronald Reagan’s assistant who was shot and nearly killed by John Hinckley, this group scored a major victory in the 90s with the federal assault weapons ban. Help the cause by donating here.

New Yorkers Against Gun Violence: Formed by grieving mothers in the wake of a Prospect Park shooting in 1993, NYAGV has grown from a Brooklyn-based organization to one with branches in 27 counties around the state. Despite the fact that New York has strict gun laws already, we can’t take it for granted. NYAGV also lobbies at the federal level for gun control. You can donate to them here.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns: Shockingly and sadly enough the gun used to kill those kids in cold blood was legal in Connecticut. But illegal guns are still a scourge in cities, take this brutal and moronic shooting on a train in Philadelphia for an example. Mayor Bloomberg was a founding member of this group of elected officials, but if your hometown mayor isn’t, get on the horn to whoever you know there and tell them to demand it.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence: Is this the most reasonably-named group in the history of American politics? Possibly, yes. The CSV is an umbrella organization of 48 national groups that seek to free the nation from gun violence through policy advocacy, research and strategic engagement. You can donate to them here.

Violence Policy Center: Even the NRA is a little afraid of these guys, branding them “the most effective, and most untruthful anti-gun rabble-rouser in Washington.” VPC has worked on campaigns from the Brady Bill to taking a stand against concealed carry permitting, filling Washington with reports on the dangers of unregulated gun ownership, challenging the NRA head-on and being a nuisance for anyone looking to make the Second Amendment into a license to carry any and every weapon under the sun. You can help them out with a donation here.

Carolyn McCarthy: A House of Representatives member who doesn’t turn tail and run from the NRA, probably because her husband was murdered by noted LIRR mass-murderer Colin Ferguson. McCarthy has been a leading force for gun control advocacy in the house and is currently working to re-instate the assault weapons ban, ban large capacity ammo clips and requiring background checks for gun store employees. She’ll be up for re-election in 2014, so keep an eye out for an opportunity to donate to her campaign.

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  • Thanks Dave.

  • Is there a way to stop or diminish the NRA influence by publishing the names of all congressman and senators who accept NRA funding? I do not want to vote for them. Also, to make public all congressman and senators who vetoed the ban on assault weapons. How about putting a lot of light on who the NRA funds?

    • No, there isn’t. The NRA has been here since before you were born and will be here after you die. We had the right to keep and bear arms before you were thought of and we will have it after you have left.

  • Would like to see the names of all 31 pro gun senators who refused to be interviewed on Meet the Press today. Also need to have published the names of all congressmen /senators who accept NRA funding. It is time for us to deal with the gun problem in this country and stand up to the influence of the NRA.

    • It’s time we deal with the yo-yo’s in this country who want to restore the feudal right, referred to by wannabe tyrants as the Divine Right, of Kings to Govern. Newsflash to low-information liberals: The only reason you have the right to spout your nonsense without being slapped down for it is because we are armed and we will not tolerate being deprived of our right to free speech. And here you are trying to take away our right to keep and bear arms. Not very bright, are you?

  • Hold on. How would gun control change what happened? Connecticut has some of the strictest gun control laws in the control. All of those guns were registered to another person even! People don’t need guns to go on killing sprees. A great example would be the unibomber…

    • And Connecticut is prohibited from legislating or enforcing ANY gun control laws: The Tenth Amendment prohibits any Power to the States prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, and the U.S. Constitution prohibits any infringement on the right to keep and bear arms. Gun control is DONE and the people have the fundamental right to ignore it.

  • Pete,
    Maybe a ban on at least assault weapons needs to be nationwide (federal) then and not just in a few states like CT to be effective? Lanza’s mother got her assault weapons from somewhere…maybe accross state lines?

    Adam Lanza was not capable of the resourcefulness of Ted Kaczynski (a former college professor. Do you think Adam could have broken into a school and Killed 27 people in 10 minutes without the easy availability of a semi-automatic weapon?

    Maybe individual citizens should be allowed to own nuclear materials…you never know when citizens are going to have to protect themselves from the government, right? :-)

    • What difference does it make what kind of gun he had? First off, it was not an machine gun. It was one shot fired for each pull of the trigger. Secondly, it is not as if he kept shooting until he was disarmed or killed. He had his fill then offed himself.

      I also don’t know how you can really assess how much more resourceful one person is to another. Especially when in today’s day and age with the internet it would be pretty easy for Lanza to just google how to make an improvised explosive devise. He was supposed to be a math and science wiz.

      Maybe we should focus more on treating mental illness rather than on how to remove all the sharp objects from everyone before they hurt themselves. Seriously, you never explained how gun control really would’ve changed the situation. No guns sold to women with children who might have mental illness?

      • Adam Lanza used a semiautomatic Bushmaster Bushmaster .223 calibre rifle M4 Type Carbine, using several magazines of 30 bullets each as his primary weapon. Lanza taped together two cartridge magazines to this Bushmaster so that he could easily flip between the two with speed. Remember, every victim was hit more than once! Lanza also used “frangible ammunition”, which fragments on impact, inflicting wounds that are usually beyond medical help.

        A simple, “attainable” goal here might be to simply reduce the probability of incidents like this by reducing the availability of militarily efficient tools of any type –not- to do something impossible like eliminating any example of violence anyone can site—like the uni-bomber example.

        In this example, Adam was a special child himself under constant monitoring. If Adam’s mother didn’t have the tools for him to take then could Adam have had access to them elsewhere? If there were any way that Adam’s mother could have been prevented from acquiring those tools in the first place then it might at least be possible that this incident could have been prevented and those children and teachers would still be with us today. Isn’t saving human worth the effort even if it only increases chances?

        The focus needs to be on reducing the easy availability of militarily efficient tools of any type NOT on eliminating the right to own a gun.

        Let people who have practical reasons for owning a gun (like self-defense, hunting…) have them. The point is–is there any practical reason for needing to own any type of tools that could kill 26 people in 5 minutes? Do we want to allow availability of any type of weapon to people who want them for any reason like various psychological reasons?

        Just where you draw the line about what is too militarily efficient will take some study and healthy adult debate from both sides before it can be set. It seems to me though that gun advocates will secure there rights to bear arms even more solidly if they will add their voices, resources and efforts to eliminate mass murder scenarios like Newtown.
        If nothing else, after Newtown, we owe it to potential future victims to give this whole question another hard look and try.

      • I have no problem with focusing more on mental illness, so long as a test for mental illness is not a pre-requisite for obtaining a firearm. Government has no authority to compel interrogation under penalty of perjury as a precondition to issuing or denying permission to exercise a right, especially when government has no authority to issue or deny permission to exercise a right in the first place.

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  • Guns are taken from responsible gun owners. Taken out of their homes. It is time for these firearms to be secured. Gun safes are the best way to secure firearms. Practically anyone with a clean record can purchase a firearm. Taking them home an putting them in a drawer is irresponsible yet many do just that. Anyone that purchases a firearm should be certified to own a firearm. That means training on the handling and securing of the firearm. There should be mandatory certification of this type before a firearm can be purchased much like the Hunter Safety Program that was implemented years ago and was very successful. Go to guncontrolreform.com and leave your comments on this.

    • Would you like to seek government permission to enter a comment on this board? Would you like to lock up your pens and pencils in a safe where you cannot reach them when you want them? Would you like to lock up your only means of defense from violent home invasion in a safe where you will be killed before you can dial the combination? Would you like to be thrown in jail for so much as shoving a home invader up against a wall, as is the standard in England? You have the right to yammer on about your defection political ideology all you want to for one reason and one reason only: We are armed and we intend to defend the U.S. Constitution as amended against you and every other tyrant working to destroy it. Why you would want to destroy that protection of your right to yammer on is inconceivable, and will not prevail.

  • Gun control groups need to unite under one national organization which could be called something like the National Gun Control Association. Such an organization could give unified direction, raise significant money and effectively counteract the negative attacks that the NRA propagates against congress members who vote for gun control. How about some like Gabby Gifford as honorary organizing chairperson?

  • What happened to Americans for Responsible Solutions. Why don’t all these groups join together and pool their resources? Strength in numbers

  • Also One Million Moms for Gun Control.

  • Dear Senators, Congress men and women, State Representatives, Judges, law enforcement personnel, Vice President and Mr. President of the United States,

    “We the people” ask that you hear our voice. As responsible, taxpaying, law abiding citizens like you, we the people of the US are asking that our collective voice be heard. We understand your responsibility is complex and you are under enormous pressure from the public. Understanding the root cause of violence in America and “gun Control” is a key element. The root cause of the problem is derived from violent movies, violent video games and the media sensationalizing violence. Video game violence is a major factor if not the principal root cause of the criminal murderous behavior we are subjected to in the last several decades. Parents allow their children to play many violent video games for thousands of hours, thus desensitizing their emotions, retarding their social growth and glorifying gun violence. By the time a person is 21 they probably have seen 21,000 murders on TV.

    An emotional reaction to a tragedy does not warrant implementing additional illogical firearms laws in addition to what we already have in place. More importantly, emotional reactions by law makers do not prevent crime but logical laws and an improvement in the justice system improves the safety of the people.

    We, the good and responsible citizens, should not have to pay the price because of the actions of terrorist and evil individuals. The guns do not kill people. The bad and evil people kill people.

    As firearm enthusiasts and many war veterans of the United States of America, we are concerned that our rights as legal and responsible firearm owners are being infringed upon. Additional laws and regulations will only have an effect on the good people complying with the law, not the criminals.

    We the people agree that any person with a violent criminal background, felon, illegal alien and any mentally ill person should not own or be able to acquire firearms or any weapon for that matter. Criminals should be incarcerated or in the case of the mentally ill, receive proper medical attention and treatment. We believe in a background check for all people before firearms are purchased.

    Unreasonable and illogical gun control does not equate to crime control. It’s that simple. Additional gun control will only have a negative consequence on the law a biding citizens and not the evil, felonious and deranged. The firearm laws in place now are extensive and comprehensive in nature. The criminals, murderous felons and evil individuals do not comply with the laws already in place. We the people do not want to be punished for the crimes others carryout.

    The complex issue of “gun control” is exploited by the media and the emotions created by the saturation of tragedies and violence in the news and movies. With clear facts and logically firearm regulations the laws are straightforward.

    I ask that you investigate all of the positive firearm information by contacting the NRA. And this time allow the NRA a fair amount of time. Please expend the time in understanding and implications of any additional firearm laws and the firearm laws we have in place right now. We as responsible people obey the law and shall be allowed to protect ourselves, children, families, friends and other responsible citizens at all times with a firearm. The statistics prove that the good and responsible people defend themselves with legal firearms thousands of times a day against evil criminals.

    Please do not “buy into” on the prejudiced, one way spin by the media regarding guns. An AR-15 is a sporting firearm, not an assault weapon. A gun is a firearm that has countless enjoyable and legal uses. The AR-15 “sportsman riffle” is used by thousands of predator hunters, deer hunters, wild boar hunting and big game hunters. Each weekend thousands of firearm target shooting professionals use the AR-15 target firearm in shooting competitions. A firearm, like the AR-15 sporting rifle, is not just for protection. We the people enjoy the responsible usage of firearms during target shooting, sportsmanship high–power rifle shoots, small bore pistol competitions, junior target shooting championships, International Defense Pistol Association IDPA firearm matches, and many other enjoyable legal activities with semiautomatic rifles, pistols with large capacity magazines. In one weekend at a sanctioned competition a single person utilizes about 500 rounds target shooting. The AR-15 is the most popular sporting rife in history. We have worked hard to afford such a fine firearm and we very much enjoy the safe, responsible, ethical use, equipment and accessories for it. It is not a scary looking “assault weapon”. Please help stop demonizing guns with the words “assault weapon”. It is evil people that assault not the firearm..

    A police officer, or any law enforcement person for that matter, cannot be there for us at all times, in all places, to protect us from all criminals. Criminals do not have any rules, timelines or laws that they must follow. There could be multiple attackers at any one time in anyplace, with multiple weapons. The only way that we, the honest and responsible people, have a chance to survive a deadly encounter created by a criminal is to have firearms, semiautomatic pistols, shotguns and rifles to protect ourselves. The thousands of responsible individuals protecting their families with legal firearms each day are forced to do so by the evil criminals. Those criminals should be incarcerated for the crimes they commit. Not the honest and responsible people.

    It is very true that the only thing that will stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun. Please adjudicate the many issues with violence in video games, the internet and the mentally ill that is part of the root cause of the problem with crime and violence in the USA, not the guns.
    We know gun laws are always written by people who hate guns. Ironically, they are the ones who know the least about guns.

    The media created the names such as “high capacity:, “assault weapons” and “military style”. The fact is that most all firearms developed through the military end up as the best firearms for the civilian communities. Those versions are not military weapons. The military weapons are fully automatic.

    There are hundreds of thousands of large capacity magazines common in almost all semiautomatic firearms. Is it okay to have 10 rounds magazines or 12 in them? What logic does into that decision to limit the 30 round magazines? The only people that will have limitations now will be the law abiding folks like you and I; not the criminals. When three gang members break into a woman’s home where she and her two children live alone, how will she defend herself and her family effectively? Whys should she now be limited to a 6 shooter revolver when the criminals will have illegal semiautomatic weapons, shotguns, pistols and lord knows what else? Without the ability to own a semiautomatic firearm with larger capacity magazines, she and her children are now the only one in this horrible situation at a disadvantage. Do you think the criminals now will be limited to 10 rounds and the world a safe place? No. Please look at the facts, here is a website for your complete examination; http://www.cralri.com/guntruths.shtml

    When a person breaks the law, kills and has their day in court; they are incarcerated. Why are so many let out of prisons for “good behavior”? There is no “good behavior” when they have killed our good people. Why is that a criminal convicted of murdering his grandmother with a hammer released from prison? Crime control not gun control. Do not apply punishment to the good, responsible people of the USA.
    People with firearms save thousands of lives.

    There are many solutions to reduce the senseless, evil violence. A system that Implements a standardized background check system that accesses mental illness files, state and federal files quickly would be a reasonable improvement. A standardized concealed carry permit at the federal level or something like a driver’s license is the solution. Not a state by state, town by town, person by person arbitrary ruling.

    The wave of Americans—mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, pastors, law enforcement, mental health professionals, are legal responsible gun owners that ought to be allowed their rights to all legal firearms. We have the right to protect ourselves and families at ALL times by carrying and owning firearms. Because we are the people and are responsible ethical persons, we have a responsibility to defend ourselves from all enemies foreign and domestic. It is our second amendment right to do so.

    We the people ask you and your counterparts to protect our constitutional second amendment rights, our right to carry firearms for personal protection as responsible persons, are rights to protect ourselves and our rights to have and enjoy all legal sporting, rifles, handguns and ammunition. And, we ask for a response to this letter.

    The right of the people to keep and bear arms is an extension of the natural right to self-defense and a hallmark of personal sovereignty, A natural right is an area of individual human behavior — like thought, speech, worship, travel, self-defense, privacy, ownership and use of property, consensual personal intimacy

    We the People

  • Like the founders of Coca Cola who changed from fountain syrup – BY the words “bottle it”, as the word control has negative implications as the law of land says citizens can bear arms; what we need is GUN MANAGEMENT”

  • There will never be progress on gun control until the absurd deviation of the 2nd amendment hatched by the NRA is revealed as the fraud that it is.
    USSC 1876 and 1939 clearly said as did the amendment in the first place that it is about militia .. well regulated (state) militia.

    Anything more than a hunting rifle, a defensive pistol .. even though it’s more likely to harm innocents than to actually protect .. should be locked up at a licensed range and never leave that place. Period.

  • What am I missing here?

    I’d really like to hear from the NRA on this but since I’m not a member and they don’t post an email address or reply to their automated email thing I figured I’d check with some gun control advocacy groups instead ..

    I don’t see how unless one decides to interpret things as per their own personal beliefs and ideologies how anyone can dispute what I have below. And if one can interpret this however they want then that inherently applies to everything else in the constitution as well.

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    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Guns exist and there should be no debate whether they should be registered and tracked. However, it’s obvious that banning guns is impossible and would only leave them in the hand of criminals or the “unstable” who could care less about laws. That being said I’d like to understand how the constitution is interpreted as providing the right to own and bear arms to EVERYONE?

    Going by the 2nd amendment and the subsequent Acts noted below I do not see how the constitution protects gun rights for anyone but men and women age 18-45 who serve in the military, reserves, national guard (or law enforcement), along with men and women up to the age of 64 if they’ve served in the reserves, national guard or law enforcement in the past. No one else has the right to own and bear arms as per the Constitution and related Acts as my understanding.

    *1st Militia Act of 1792 granted the president the power to call state militias whenever the country might be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe.

    *2nd Militia Act of 1792 conscripted every “free able-bodied white male citizen” between the ages of 18 (17 at one point) and 45 into a local militia company. Militia members were to arm themselves with a musket, bayonet and belt, two spare flints, a cartridge box with 24 bullets, and a knapsack.

    *Militia Act of 1862 – Allowed African-Americans to participate as war laborers and soldiers during the American Civil War.

    *Militia Act of 1903 – Formalized the militia establishing the National Guard and Army Reserves. Men up to the age of 45 could still potentially be called for militia draft duty or up to 64 if they had served in the Militia, National Guard or Reserves.

    *Conscription in the United States was discontinued in 1973 but still remains a last resort contingency option requiring all males 18-25 to be registered. (if you count this then ALL men 18-25 would also have gun rights protected under the constitution.)

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    In short, today citizens are no longer part of a militia and never will be. Today we don’t have a militia, period! To be honest many people I’ve mention this to didn’t even know what a militia is. Today we have an organized Military and if anything could be considered a militia is our reserves and national guards; Army Reserve, Army National Guard, Air Force Reserve, Air National Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve coupled with the contingency draft (I personally would also include local and national law enforcement personnel).

    Where everyone has the right to own and bear a gun is beyond me and like most else seems to involve interpretation that benefit a predetermined desired condition of a set group’s ideals. I also understand the interpretations but realize that the same can be done with nearly every other article and amendment.

    I’m a 37 year old male who never server in the military (regrettably as I look back) or law enforcement. Although I’ve shot guns with some of my relatives when I was a teenager and do still find them mechanically and sometimes artistically interesting, under what’s stated in the constitution and later acts I have no rights to own or bear arms!

    Thanks,
    Marc

    • Thanks to you, marcd, for a very thoughtful analysis of the constitution. If guns were not so glorified by americans, perhaps we would find a more peaceful nation and a more peaceful world. We seem intent on over arming the entire world. Hopefully, a hugh number of people will keep this in mind every time they vote. We need to let our voices be heard since the senators seems to be a bit hard of hearing.

    • Hmm, so the 4th Ammendmant says “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

      Now where is there a right to Abortion in there?!

      Please parse the 2nd as broadly as you parse the 4th!!!

    • Sorry, Marc. You’re full of crap. Practically nothing you said above is factual, legal, or even good sense. YOU are a member of the militia whether you like it or not, and YOU have a duty to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the rights and responsibilities of your fellow citizens. If you aren’t willing to fulfill this duty you aren’t worth they air you breathe.

  • my proposed amendment…doing away with II since it has been bastardized and no longer reflects its intent. Gun rights are no more
    special than are piano rights and no person .. none .. needs a multi-pop
    machine gun in the streets … period >>

    PROPOSED AMENDMENT
    XXVIII
    TO THE US CONSTITUTION

    Section 1.
    The second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

    Section 2.
    The manufacture, importation, sale, distribution, possession or gift of any assault style or automatic or semi-automatic weapon intended to launch missiles, bullets, grenades or rockets is hereby restricted as defined in section 3.

    Section 3.
    All weapons of the types defined in section 2 shall be manufactured for and only for shipment to licensed gun ranges pursuant to an order from a licensed gun dealer on behalf of a duly licensed and background tested candidate for ownership

    or

    to military posts, pursuant to an order from the United States government, Department of Defense.
    1. Civilian ownership and use of the weapons herein described is restricted to secure lockers at gun ranges licensed by and supervised by both state and federal agencies. Weapon shall be available to the owner for use with inanimate targets on the range property.

    2. Transport of the weapons of the type herein defined shall require disassembly and packaging by the range operator and shipment to and only to another licensed gun range.

    3. Military posts receiving the types of weapons herein defined shall be required to
    have a designated security officer who shall be responsible for the secure
    storage and handling of said assault style, automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

    Section 4.
    No individual rights or privileges regarding the ownership, storage and use of the types of weapons herein described shall ever be considered superior to the welfare, safety and well-being of the society as a whole.

    Section 5.
    Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

  • The President’s & Legislatures oath of office;
    I will to the best of my ability, Preserve, Protect and Defend
    the Constitution of the United States, so help me God!

    Mr. President & Democratic Senators, you are violating your oath of office……..I believe you should be censored & penalized for your blatent
    attempt to gut the Constituion…. and (The Second Ammenment) for your oun purposes. Trying to create police state. When do you plan to remove our First Ammendment rights,
    to silent the majority of voters who don’t support your views.
    I believe in Freedom! You clearly believe in Censorship. These Democrats want to control the people period! They are dead against our Freedoms.
    SHAME ON YOU1 You lost my vote and I hope the next election!

  • You Democrats just want a police state with the government dictating everything. Dictator Obama is writing( Executive Orders ) taking away our rights. He is exceeding his authority isn’t he? This country is a Democracy
    to create Freedom! Looks like we need to ban Utility knives’s, a man in Texas just stabbed 14 people. Now two Russians (Cheachnians) just bombed the Boston Marathon Runners (197 injured). Looks like these people didn’t need guns. Be careful what you wish for….it may be your Freedom…

  • I’d like to see a Gun Control ad that scrolls down a page with the name and amount received from the NRA of each Senator who voted against stronger background checks on one side and pictures of the victims of the New Hampshire School Massacre on the other. We could hear each Senator proudly state their name and the State they represent, alternating with President Obama’s reading of the name of the murdered child or staff member along with their picture.

  • OOps, Sorry – Scratch that! I meant Connecticut! I was thinking of the New Hampshire Senators who voted against the back ground checks without taking money from the NRA.

    Sorry – you know what I meant, right? Please feel free to edit!

  • Funny there’s never any call for more Gun Control when some thug cops murders a black child, something of a monthly occurence in New York City, the bluest of the blue states!

    Oh, that’s right, violence by the Government is Ok, its just violence by Citizens that’s a problem.
    How many blacks have been murdered by the police? How about Waco, Ruby Ridge, Phildelphia Move, etc.
    Ok “Sheepable’ do what Big Brother tells you to …

  • OK A you all are a bunch of retards B the constitution clearly states that there should be no gun control laws. Also more crimes are stopped because of guns then crimes that are caused because of guns.

  • Look you guys are so freaking stupid America without guns is nothing. there has been a law since 1791 that ratify our nation for the right to bear arms. I’m not saying that murders will never happen and everyone will be happy because that just isn’t possible. But there is a reason we have guns and that is to provide protection. there are 10,000 murders per year by guns and yes thats horrific but 162,000 lives use guns as self defense. What you northerners need to realize is that you aren’t the entire country, your a section and region that honestly is so damn cocky. Just because everything bad happens there and you guys over sell every single story Doesn’t mean it should effect the entire country. I feel bad for the families that lose lives over these but the last thing I will say is GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL People and just because all the bad things happen in this region means your security sucks so as a southerner i will have my 12 gauge on my lap and you guys can live in the shit hole.

  • If the groups you mentioned provided real, verifiable facts that supported their positions I’d be a lot more willing to endorse their positions.

    Instead, they resort to tactics like including criminals killed by the police like rogue cop Christopher Dorner and Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to inflate the numbers of “victims of gun violence”. They also employ studies that attempt to portray the lifestyle of a rural household with hunters or suburban family with grandpa’s gun from the war as equally dangerous as a crack house in a ghetto full of drugs, felons and stolen weapons based solely on the presence of a firearm rather than considering either lifestyle or criminality.

  • Guns aren’t the problem, people are.. How many people die each year due to texting while driving? How many people die per year because of driving under the influence? Why single out guns? Why not ban cars, smartphones and alcohol? I am sick and tired of an insignificant few (less than 1/10th of 1 percent) giving guns a bad rap. I am even more fed up with the media hype to control public thinking on the issue of gun ownership. Gun control should be directed and banning guns for use by individuals with emotional and mental issues. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible and understand the need to safely handle and carry. Similar to those who understand responsibility and safety while driving a car.

  • Do you like the fact that in our country, you cannot be incarcerated for a crime without first facing your accuser, having the right to compel witnesses on your behalf, having the assistance of counsel, being secure from witnessing against yourself. These are very few among the many liberties the United State Constitution facilitates and the Bill of Rights protects. These rights are protected because many people of this nation believe they must be protected. History has shown, without fail, the only way to protect rights from government obliteration, to prevent tyranny and oppression of the people that existed for 25 centuries before the United States was founded, is by the people having access to, and if necessary using, force of arms. And here you are trying to destroy the one right that protects all our liberties. Not very bright, are you? Contrary to your allegation above, Kurt Vonnegut and Kilgore Trout are crocks of shit.